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How the World Got Owned Episode 1: The 1980s

Risky Business

Published
January 6, 2026
Duration
1h 3m
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Last updated
Apr 29, 2026

Discusses In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a historical dive into ha…

Summary

In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a historical dive into hacking in the 1980s. Through the words of those that were there, they discuss life on the ARPANET, the 414s hacking group, the Morris Worm, the vibe inside the NSA and a parallel hunt for German hackers happening at a similar time to Cliff Stoll’s famous Cuc…

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In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a historical dive into hacking in the 1980s. Through the words of those that were there, they discuss life on the ARPANET, the 414s hacking group, the Morris Worm, the vibe inside the NSA and a parallel hunt for German hackers happening at a similar time to Cliff Stoll’s famous Cuckoo’s Egg story. This podcast features the memories of: Jon Callas, former principal software engineer at Digital Equipment Corporation Mark Ra